"MrDakka" (mrdakka)
02/22/2017 at 11:03 • Filed to: None
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"MrDakka" (mrdakka)
02/22/2017 at 11:03 • Filed to: None | 3
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For all you computer oppos; looks like AMD may very well recapture its former market share
bob and john
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:12 |
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wow, the top line one is CHEAP.
wonder what the actual performance is. and not performance in their demo, I mean actual real worlds performance.
For Sweden
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:13 |
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A good investment for winter
PS9
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:14 |
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It is quite the understatement to say AMD has gone for the jugular with Ryzen. I will withhold full judgement until the reviews hit, but if all the leaks are true then Intel is about to be undercut by hundreds of dollars. It’s just not sustainable to sell a $1200 chip when another one is just as good - or even a tiny bit better - and costs $700 less.
I’m sure intel has an adequate response, but given the lead time on chips like these, thats 6-12 months away at the soonest, and the damage will be done in that time. The days of fat margins and premium pricing in exchange for small bumps in performance might be over, at least for now.
jimz
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:15 |
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I don’t know, what’s the “why buy?” I was an AMD fan back in the K7/K8 days, but once the lost the plot on Bulldozer I pretty much forgot about them.
TheTurbochargedSquirrel
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:19 |
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I’m thinking about building myself a mini-ITX machine as a bench computer for my electronics lab space (something to display schematics and PCB cad as well as some SPICE simulation). It’s going to be interesting to see what Ryzen offers compared to an Intel i5.
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> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:19 |
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Saving grace for AMD was that Intel really sucked this time round. Intel just decided to slow everything down and turn to corporate greed (read: Optane support being restricted to the not-so-different-from Skylake Kaby Lake).
Concrete proof that monopolies are bad for everyone, including the party trying to monoplize a market. If anything Intel learned nothing from the original K7/Thunderbird Athlons vs P4 Willamette.
CB
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:21 |
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As an Intel fan, I’m excited, because hopefully this will drive some of the prices down or lead to a performance increase.
spanfucker retire bitch
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:22 |
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An 8-core, clocked at over 4GHz for 500 dollars is a winner if those leaks are actually accurate.
I’m cautiously optimistic as the leaks for Bulldozer looked decent as well and they turned out to be shit in real world workloads. If it is good though, this’ll be the first AMD computer I’ll have ever built. The biggest thing for me right now, are the existence of high quality motherboards, and good driver support for the controllers.
If AMD has all of those things from its hardware partners, and a legit good chip - I’ll be getting myself an 1800X.
carzcarzcarz
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:25 |
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Glad that AMD is back and there is finally some competiton to Intel, as they have been lazy and greedy lately.
Roadster Man
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:44 |
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I JUST BOUGHT A NEW SOCKET 1151 MOTHERBOARD WHYYYYYYY
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> spanfucker retire bitch
02/22/2017 at 11:52 |
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I think there were some leaked benchmarks that it really did beat Intel’s Extremely Expensive Edition chips.
Textured Soy Protein
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 11:54 |
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If only Microsoft didn’t completely alienate me from using its OS with Windows 8 and 10, I might actually care about this.
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02/22/2017 at 12:13 |
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I take all leaked benchmarks with a heaping pile of salt. Until I see them confirmed by third party review sites (after the NDA has been lifted) they’re just a good source for excitement and hop - nothing more.
Mid Engine
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 12:18 |
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30 year microprocessor dude here, and it’s going to get quite interesting in a hurry. The market AMD and others are after isn’t the desktop/laptop market (although they’ll be glad to sell a bunch in the segment all the same) as that market has been in a steady decline. Gaming consoles from Sony and Microsoft feature custom chips from AMD that use many x86 cores in conjunction with GPU’s to accelerate graphics, so that part of the market is well served.
They’re all after the colossal data center market where Intel is making hay (and huge margins). If the hyperscale datacenters such as Google, Facebook, Amazon Web Services, Microsoft Azure, Oracle, IBM, etc.. are finally ready to evaluate other vendors it really does open up a can of worms. Sure they can look to AMD as an x86 alternative, but they can also look to microprocessors featuring ARM cores rather than X86 and at that point, the vendor list grows exponentially. AMD has their Seattle chip, Qualcomm has a Snapdragon processor that could handle data center workloads, Cavium has their ThunderX, and a myriad of other companies with novel approaches. Hell, AWS designed their own intelligent NIC chip using ARM cores, if they put their mind to it they could design their own high performance host processor too. Oh, if it matters Windows runs native on ARM processors.
AI/VR is a very attractive market, however it’s clear that brute horsepower computing won’t work, as such there’s a reliance on GPU’s from NVidia and to a lesser extent AMD. Put enough time & effort into it and you can solve some of these problems with a FPGA. As I said at the outset, it’s gonna be interesting.
swaptastic
> MrDakka
02/22/2017 at 14:41 |
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I hope they do live up to the hype because consumers will benefit. It gives Intel some honest competition and Nvidia to some extent. But I do agree with others saying to wait for actual third-party groups get their own hands on these and test them.